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Polyanna skrev:Men hvor ser du veien videre, Lisa?
Jeg ser ikke for meg at Putin backer ut, i hvert fall? Og ikke at andre land griper inn mot Russland heller. Men kan vestlige ledere leve med at Putin får beholde Krim?
Ellers reagerer jeg fortsatt på en veldig ensidig dekning. At Krim stort sett alltid har vært russisk nevnes lite. At Ukraina har vært "fullfinansiert" av Russland heller ikke. At Ukraina ikke har en lovlig oppnevnt regjering, at den lovlig valgte presidenten faktisk støtter Russland - ikke snakket om.
Were he talking about the country's economic plight he would have a point. Instead, along with much of the US and European media, he was over-dramatising developments in the east, where Russian speakers are understandably alarmed after the new Kiev authorities scrapped a law allowing Russian as an official language in their areas. They see it as proof that the anti-Russian ultra-nationalists from western Ukraine who were the dominant force in last month's insurrection still control it. Eastern Ukrainians fear similar tactics of storming public buildings could be used against their elected officials.
Since independence, every poll in Ukraine has shown a majority against Nato membership, yet one after another the elites who ran the country until 2010 and who are now back in charge ignored the popular will. Seduced by Nato's largesse and the feeling of being part of a hi-tech global club, they took part in joint military exercises and even sent Ukrainian troops to Iraq and Afghanistan.
The deposed Viktor Yanukovych, for all his incompetence, corruption and abuse of power, was the first president to oppose Nato membership in his election campaign and then persuade parliament to make non-alignment the cornerstone of the country's security strategy, on the pattern of Finland, Ireland and Sweden. Nato refused to accept it. As recently as 1 February, before the latest crisis, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the empire-building secretary general, told a security conference in Munich: "Ukraine must have the freedom to choose its own path without external pressure." The implication was clear: if only it were not for those beastly Russians, Ukraine would be one of us. Had Rasmussen said: "Ukraine has chosen nonalignment and we respect that choice," he would have been wiser.
Polyanna skrev:Ah, interessant. Norske medier snakker mye om "etniske russere" - er det "russisktalende" de mener da, eller hva?
Men Ukraina er en salig språkrøre, og det er ikke lett å vite hva som er etnisitet og hva som er språk (og som sagt, språkene er like like som norsk og svensk, og det finnes også en svært utbredt blandingsvariant). Og det er et problem at debatten blir så polarisert, mange russisktalende ukrainere føler seg ikke hjemme i noen leir – de har problemer med den ukrainske (språkbaserte) nasjonalismen, men de har ikke noe til overs for en Europa-fiendtlig, Putin-vennlig politikk av den grunn. Så store grupper med fornuftige mennesker havner mellom barken og veden. Kjipe greier.
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